In 2013 Paulo went o Cuba to co-facilitate the Permaculture Design Certificate course that happened before the International Permaculture Convergence. During the PDC Erin Axelrod recorded a 45-min interview with Paulo talking about Permaculture and Regenerative Enterprise. She recorded it on her phone and went to great lengths to get in out of her phone and sent to me. I fully appreciate her efforts as it is a beautiful memory of the amazing mind and heart that Paulo brought into the planet. Have a listen and enjoy the memories!